10/28/02 6:59:50 PM Opening "Chat Log 10/28/02"
HOST WPLC Lyric: Dirk, these are our other hosts, Deer, is Donna and Sushi is Paul Sunan21: hi all HOST WPLC Sushi: Hello everyone HOST WPLC Dee R: Hi Tom sh021902: Hello Fjm and all HOST WPLC Lyric: Just so everyone knows, Dirk Wyle, our guest is using the screen name DuncHayn HOST WPLC Dee R: Hi Dirk, glad you are here. DuncHayn: Hi. WriteWithHeart: so Dirk....before we start.....single or married? a girl has gotta ask... DuncHayn: Married. WriteWithHeart: kids? DuncHayn: two, both self-sufficient. WriteWithHeart: cool....means you did your job... DuncHayn: One is businessman. other is actor. Sunan21: A mothers dream WriteWithHeart: that's wonderful HOST WPLC Lyric: Cindy BEHAVE! HOST WPLC Lyric: LOL WriteWithHeart: tee hee HOST WPLC Lyric: okay, looks like we've got a pretty full house here JsmnStrm: yeah we do. ;) Fjm3eyes: who's Cindy? HOST WPLC Lyric: So I'd like to introduce everyone to our guest speaker, Dirk Wyle JES No Time: Standing room only <g> HOST WPLC Lyric: Dirk is using the screen name DuncHayn OnlineHost: LittCrazy has entered the room. JsmnStrm: Just the way it should be, Jes. :) HOST WPLC Lyric: Welcome Dirk!!!! DuncHayn: Glad to be here. G1ft0fgabn0t: Great to have you here OnlineHost: Allturegoo has entered the room. HOST WPLC Lyric: Dirk has authored six Ben Candidi Mysteries, all of which are Medical Thrillers HOST WPLC Lyric: Is that right Dirk? DuncHayn: Three are published. Kathi Smith 116: is the sound of automatic weapons fire an odd thing to hear this time of night? HOST WPLC Lyric: He is also a scientist in his own right and uses that knowledge in the field of pharamaceuticals to write his books DuncHayn: About 12 to go. Kathi Smith 116: glad to have you, dirk DuncHayn: I was asked to talk about the process of writing a novel. HOST WPLC Lyric: I met Dirk at the Bouchercon Mystery Conference last year and can tell you that in person he's a pretty charismatic guy HOST WPLC Dee R: I noticed a blurb from Edna Buchanan complimenting one of your books... DuncHayn: Yes, she's a great gal. HOST WPLC Lyric: He also has an interesting way of marketing small press books that maybe he'll also share with us at the end of his presentation. HOST WPLC Lyric: Yes, just so you know, that link was sent to the entire group OnlineHost: KristyMontee has left the room. Kathi Smith 116: dirk, where's your website? i had it, but it's on the other computer HOST WPLC Dee R: I imagine she is a character. DuncHayn: www.dirk-wyle.comJsmnStrm: do you maintain your site, Dirk? DuncHayn: She's a great newspaper gal who's an even better novelist. Kathi Smith 116: thanks OnlineHost: TheClassicQuill has left the room. DuncHayn: I do the HTML myself. JsmnStrm: :) :) :) Isn't html fun?? lol HOST WPLC Lyric: Why don't we let Dirk do his presentation and then we'll ask him questions at the end? DuncHayn: Hi, everybody. I am Dirk Wyle (www.dirk-wyle.com). Thanks for coming to hear me talk about organizing your manuscript and the process of writing a novel. HOST WPLC Lyric: Sooooo HEEEEERRRRRS Dirk! G1ft0fgabn0t: lol DuncHayn: Having published three novels in my Ben Candidi Series, and having completed a fourth, and working now on my fifth and sixth, I have given a lot of thought to what can make the writer efficient or inefficient at his craft. DuncHayn: I have also critiqued a lot of manuscripts for colleagues DuncHayn: So here are two pages of thoughts on the subject, illustrated by my third novel Medical School Is Murder: DuncHayn: A NOVEL IS POWERED BY INCREASING SUSPENSE OR BY INCREASING FASCINATION or, better yet, by a combination of the two. DuncHayn: (Sorry, unable to respond off-line to moderator.) OnlineHost: CPeete has entered the room. DuncHayn: THE NOVELISTS JOB IS TO POSITION THE READER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE EVOLVING STORY. If the story were a trip on an elevated train, the reader would be positioned three feet behind the motorman. DuncHayn: Does that make sense, gang? HOST WPLC Lyric: Can you give us some examples Dirk HOST WPLC Sushi: Yes indeed. (Out here we have BART) CPeete: Sorry I'm late...hello to everyone and our guest. DuncHayn: Some novelists tell the story like it has already happened. That is the tail end of the train. OnlineHost: Valatin has left the room. DuncHayn: Some tell it as it happens, but without suspense or reader involvement. That is like the side window of the train. DuncHayn: The best novelists puth the reader right up front where he belongs. DuncHayn: SINCE MOST STORIES REQUIRE UNDERLYING LOGIC, IT IS BEST TO OUTLINE THE MAJOR PLOT POINTS OF YOUR NOVEL. OnlineHost: LittCrazy has left the room. DuncHayn: These are the landmarks of your story. Doing this will free you up to be creative as to how you get from point C to point D, without having to worry about whether that will eliminate point H (and youll have to rewrite your story). DuncHayn: BUT IF YOUR OUTLINING IS TOO METICULOUS, THE SCENES WILL NOT TRUE. HOST WPLC Sushi: ring true? JES No Time: Looking for the happy balance DuncHayn: You all know wooden writing when you see it. HOST WPLC Dee R: So hit the highlights of the plot in the outline? DuncHayn: The writer tells you that something happened, but it doesn/t feel like it happened. DuncHayn: Yes, I have some highlights from my third novel. JsmnStrm: cool! Story previews.. gotta love it. DuncHayn: In Medical School Is Murder, the first scenes to write themselves were (1) the phone call that served as Bens call to action, leaving Rebecca temporarily to return to Miami and take over a deceased scientists laboratory, DuncHayn: 2) the Unitarian memorial service for the deceased Prof. Peter Peterson in which the minister surprises Ben by asking him to say a few words about his predecessor, DuncHayn: 3) Bens strange conversation with a medical school official, DuncHayn: (4) spying on animal rights activists, DuncHayn: (5) Bens attempt to pry information from a scientific do-gooder sub-group at a national scientific meeting, and DuncHayn: (6) a cliff-hanging ending. HOST WPLC Lyric: Everyone should know that Rebecca is your protagonist's fiancee, right? DuncHayn: Yes. DuncHayn: So these are the highlights and the strongest scenes. DuncHayn: But the rest of the story has to be told. Kathi Smith 116: can you define plot points for us? DuncHayn: Hard to define. Take an intuitive approach. DuncHayn: Maybe you would call them landmarks in the story. Turning points. DuncHayn: Think of them as gates through which the story passes. Fjm3eyes: bye everyone DuncHayn: ONCE YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED YOUR MAJOR PLOT POINTS AND DRAMATIC SC ENES, YOU WILL KNOW WHAT SORT OF SPIN TO PUT ON THE INTERVENING MATERIAL. DuncHayn: For example, between #1 and #2 the question was whether Ben could rise to the occasion and play the role of Research Assistant Professor. Between #2 and #5, I used job pressures and other problems to put Ben under pressure. OnlineHost: Fjm3eyes has left the room. DuncHayn: Spin is important. Without subtle direction of the reader, your story or intent will be misinterpreted. DuncHayn: Some authors call it "voice." OnlineHost: sh021902 has left the room. OnlineHost: Fjm3eyes has entered the room. HOST WPLC Sushi: interesting term & concept DuncHayn: It makes the author "distinctive" and helps the reader know what to expect. HOST WPLC Lyric: so you think spin and voice are the same? DuncHayn: No. OnlineHost: PPPRINCESSWHITE has entered the room. DuncHayn: Voice has more to do with uniformity. OnlineHost: PPPRINCESSWHITE has left the room. OnlineHost: CPeete has left the room. DuncHayn: Are there more questions? TheDuffer: ! OnlineHost: Elclogger has left the room. OnlineHost: CPeete has entered the room. JES No Time: Do you think that voice is something you can develope or is it a natural talent? DuncHayn: Yes, duffer. TheDuffer: I've visited your website. Wonderful background, but a bit disappointed DuncHayn: You can develop it. TheDuffer: that there are no excerpts from your work. DuncHayn: How so disappointed. HOST WPLC Sushi: [moderator?] TheDuffer: GA HOST WPLC Lyric: Duff, we're going to take questions at the end HOST WPLC Lyric: I'm sure Dirk will be glad to discuss that with you in a few minutes DuncHayn: There are excerpts of Pharmacology is Murder. You can get excerpts of the others at Amazon. TheDuffer: Cool, Lyric, I thought it was open for questions and comments. Sorry. JsmnStrm: Dirk just asked if there were any questions... :) didn't he? HOST WPLC Dee R: I saw the ones at Amazon DuncHayn: Good, I will go on with what I had planned. HOST WPLC Lyric: only on the point being discussed. <G> DuncHayn: A NUMBER OF DEVICES CAN BE HELPFUL TO GENERATE AND TO SCULPT YOUR STORY HOST WPLC Dee R: you're doing good, Dirk...great stuff JES No Time: opps OnlineHost: SteeIBtrfl has entered the room. JsmnStrm: ((( ooops, sorry))))) DuncHayn: Thanks. Lyric. In the early phases, I sometimes develop character cards that I lay down against each other to generate actions and character properties, which I continue to revise until they are just right. PHeeren: ? DuncHayn: When the plot becomes complicated, I generate tables, giving each major character a column, and filling the rows with actions and reactions. DuncHayn: Every plot point becomes a separate page in a looseleaf notebook, with the actions written in BOLDFACE. DuncHayn: Inspired scenes are written and inserted. When I am writing inspired I don't worry about grammar or {words that I can't find} DuncHayn: because that kills inspiration {which lives in the moment}. Later, I can make myself a note to [ADJUST THE ABOVE]. DuncHayn: (Bear with me for a few minutes.) JsmnStrm: :) we can do that. :) DuncHayn: The looseleaf notebook undergoes constant revision. I look it over, think hard and pen in changes and things to add. DuncHayn: These brainstorming sessions may take 1-2 hours. If a new scene or narrative paragraph suggests itself, I sit down at the DuncHayn: keyboard and write it immediately while it is fresh. After the pages are full of notes to myself, then I rearrange it in my computer and type out a new version. DuncHayn: If I am not inspired, I do now write dialogue or even narrative. I write notes to myself about things to do or think about. Usually, I become inspired while writing the notes. HOST WPLC Sushi: (do not?) OnlineHost: HOST WPLC sunnyG has left the room. DuncHayn: "to do or to think about." DuncHayn: After I have done that a dozen times, I can start calling it a novel. Then I go over it for tone, action, fascination, logic, balance {and the checklist goes on}. DuncHayn: My next step is to draft a back cover synopsis. This usually takes the equivalent of two days. With that written and optimized, I go back over the novel, page by page, to be sure that it lives up to its promise. DuncHayn: I'M READY FOR QUESTIONS, NOW. PHeeren: ? HOST WPLC Dee R: We should start Tom...(PHeeren) JsmnStrm: :) good presentataion. ;) DuncHayn: Thanks. PHeeren: all right....do writers often use an outline like we did for our term papers in hs? PHeeren: ga DuncHayn: Pheeren, the outline should be convenient for you. DuncHayn: It should help you visualize your major points. Nsummers882: ? DuncHayn: You don't have to turn it into anyone. DuncHayn: You can do as much or as little as you want. HOST WPLC Dee R: ? DuncHayn: GA JES No Time: ? HOST WPLC Lyric: Nsum ga DuncHayn: Go ahead, Jess Nsummers882: about the character cards this has the discriptions and everything about them. DuncHayn: Whatever works for you. JES No Time: Your character cards, do you move them around like chess peices or use your imagination. HOST WPLC Lyric: (jess next) DuncHayn: You can try putting the ones together who are interacting together. DuncHayn: Or the ones who are in opposition to each other. Nsummers882: ? HOST WPLC Lyric: (after jess Donna) DuncHayn: Whatever helps you to visualize. DuncHayn: Yes, Donna. HOST WPLC Dee R: Sometimes I get to the middle of the story and it's hard to keep up the enthusiasm...any suggestions on a jolt to get the juices going again? Fjm3eyes: ? DuncHayn: Do you know how the story ends? HOST WPLC Dee R: yes CPeete: good question, Donna OnlineHost: Allturegoo has left the room. DuncHayn: Then you know the steps necessary to get from beginning to end? HOST WPLC Dee R: I always know how they end...when I start the story and how to get there...I've started to do a "light" outline HOST WPLC Dee R: thanks to Paul's encouragement, lol DuncHayn: You should have no more in the middle than necessary. And you should always look at your material to DuncHayn: be sure that the drama or fascination is building. HOST WPLC Lyric: (Nsummer next) DuncHayn: Anything that the readers already know can be gone over lightly. Nsummers882: so you don't put the witing together untill you are ready to write the whole thing at one time? this sounds greatly organized and easy. HOST WPLC Lyric: please wait to be called on By Dirk, guys HOST WPLC Lyric: I'm just reminding him of the queue DuncHayn: Who is next? HOST WPLC Lyric: nsummer HOST WPLC Dee R: thanks, Dirk DuncHayn: Go ahead, nsummer. Nsummers882: its above HOST WPLC Lyric: paste it again so he can see it Nsummer DuncHayn: I get a minimal outline. Then I look for inspiration. DuncHayn: Some of the actions and scenes will be inspired. DuncHayn: So I write them. DuncHayn: But I don't overwrite them. DuncHayn: After I have written with inspiration on parts of the story, DuncHayn: I go back to the outline and fill in more DuncHayn: or adjust it. TheDuffer: ! HOST WPLC Lyric: (Frank is next) Nsummers882: so you dont put the writing together untill you are ready to write it all down. sounds just very organized and easy. DuncHayn: It is a continuous process until I have the whole story roughted in. JES No Time: ? DuncHayn: Then I polish it. HOST WPLC Lyric: (if I forget anyone IM me!) DuncHayn: Frank, you're next? Fjm3eyes: Do you write short stories as well as novels? GA DuncHayn: I have written a couple. One is "Gems of Yiddish" with DuncHayn: Jewish gangsters. Diamond merchants, actually. DuncHayn: Another is about how a dog attacks his writer master OnlineHost: JsmnStrm has left the room. DuncHayn: to get him off the computer and out DuncHayn: for a walk. JES No Time: Do you use the same characters in your novels, or introduce new ones in each book?lol HOST WPLC Dee R: lol...just kicked my dog, just in case DuncHayn: Written from the dog's point of view/ HOST WPLC Lyric: Oops we missed Duff, so duff will be after Jess JES No Time: Sorry I didn't mean to send the question out early. WriteWithHeart: hahahahaha DuncHayn: Yes, Ben and rebecca are the characters in my series. HOST WPLC Lyric: that's a funny idea, Dirk DuncHayn: Yes, the dog was trying to live up to his wolf heritage. HOST WPLC Lyric: Duff is up next DuncHayn: Who's next. TheDuffer: Good point, Guest...... My problem with students is they have a horrible tendency to overwrite, and under-edit. DuncHayn: Yes, but we are all students. TheDuffer: Do you agree? ga. DuncHayn: I did a lot of overwriting on my first novel. HOST WPLC Lyric: (queue is empty guys) DuncHayn: And I had to take a lot of stuff out. DuncHayn: And that is painful. DuncHayn: It's like putting up the drywall and plastering it and then having to rip it out. WriteWithHeart: i'll drink to that DuncHayn: (End of answer.) HOST WPLC Lyric: What is the best way to avoid that, Dirk, we're all guilty of that around here! DuncHayn: So write with heart writes with brain, too. TheDuffer: Thank you. DuncHayn: The best way to avoid wasted DuncHayn: work is to outline. OnlineHost: JsmnStrm has entered the room. HOST WPLC Dee R: ? HOST WPLC Lyric: go ahead dee DuncHayn: Go ahead. HOST WPLC Dee R: What do you consider "overwriting"? Just curious.. DuncHayn: Taking 5 pages to get through a minor scene. JsmnStrm: good question! DuncHayn: Writing one page of description of a house or room. DuncHayn: Any description that is not combined with action. Kathi Smith 116: ? HOST WPLC Lyric: Donna has another great question I'm dying for her to ask too -- about your batteries! HOST WPLC Lyric: go ahead Kathi HOST WPLC Dee R: that's a good one.. JsmnStrm: ((( never done that.. lolololol)))) DuncHayn: Drawing out a major scene past the point HOST WPLC Dee R: lol HOST WPLC Lyric: we'll get back to Donna right after Kathi! DuncHayn: where the reader gets it. Kathi Smith 116: Did you take any formal education in writing or was it more by trial and error? DuncHayn: Who's next? HOST WPLC Dee R: Kathi just asked her question.. DuncHayn: I have always read as a hobby. OnlineHost: PHeeren has left the room. DuncHayn: And I have always analyzed what i read. OnlineHost: Suspensewriter has entered the room. DuncHayn: And for about 6 years, I belonged to a critique group. DuncHayn: Now I have a circle of readers for my manuscripts. DuncHayn: (End of answer.) HOST WPLC Lyric: go ahead Donna HOST WPLC Dee R: I read an interview where you said you started writing on your laptop during a 6 week power outage...my question is: how did you recharge your batteries? Mine only last 2 hours! lol Fjm3eyes: ? DuncHayn: That's true. HOST WPLC Dee R: a trick question for you... :-) JsmnStrm: donna, you smart alec! :) DuncHayn: Went through a lot of batteries. Ha Ha.\ Kathi Smith 116: ? HOST WPLC Sushi: trick or treat! ;-) G1ft0fgabn0t: tee hee HOST WPLC Lyric: As you can tell we all think a lot of our critique partners here HOST WPLC Dee R: <----dodges the tomatoes being thrown... JsmnStrm: lol HOST WPLC Lyric: but I always think that it's as important to do critiques as to receive them OnlineHost: Suspensewriter has left the room. HOST WPLC Lyric: do you agree OnlineHost: Suspensewriter has entered the room. DuncHayn: Golden rule. HOST WPLC Dee R: I think Fjm3eyes is next and than Kathi... SteeIBtrfl: :::tosses candy corn::: DuncHayn: Got to be "clinical." HOST WPLC Lyric: more than that, I think you learn more when you critique DuncHayn: True. HOST WPLC Lyric: (I had to slip in here somewhere! Yes Frank next LOL) JsmnStrm: :::waves at steel, grabbign candy::::: Fjm3eyes: Did your critique group help with the finding of your circle of readers? GA DuncHayn: No, they were unpublished. DuncHayn: But they knew how to find weakness in each DuncHayn: other DuncHayn: 's work. HOST WPLC Lyric: Kathi is next DuncHayn: And that's important. DuncHayn: Kathy! Kathi Smith 116: What sort of writing schedule do you practice? DuncHayn: I try to do 6 hours a day when I am not HOST WPLC Lyric: :::::::::::FIVE MINUTE WARNING::::::::: DuncHayn: promoting (which takes 40% fo my time.) DuncHayn: But I am always thinking Kathi Smith 116: ? HOST WPLC Lyric: Dirk will you tell the gang about your side business? DuncHayn: about my in progress novel, even when DuncHayn: not at the keyboard. OnlineHost: Suspensewriter has left the room. JsmnStrm: ? DuncHayn: What do you mean? Sunan21: ? HOST WPLC Lyric: About how you also promote other books when you sell yours DuncHayn: Jump in, anyone. DuncHayn: Readings at bookstores and libraries. DuncHayn: Trade shows. HOST WPLC Lyric: Like your booth at Bouchercon DuncHayn: Radio interviews. JsmnStrm: do you constantly think about your novel? Work out things in your head and stuff? DuncHayn: No booth at Bouchercon, but at scientific meetings. G1ft0fgabn0t: ? HOST WPLC Lyric: I missed Duff so it's his turn, guys, I apologize Duff DuncHayn: I do a lot of work while walking the dog. DuncHayn: Yes, duff. HOST WPLC Dee R: Jsmn, Sunan, and Gabby SteeIBtrfl: sounds like you have a stephen king type dog DuncHayn: He's a yellow lab. DuncHayn: Scotty! Kathi Smith 116: (I had another question too...above...maybe you missed it) DuncHayn: ok. HOST WPLC Lyric: no I didn't Kathi, Duff first and then Kathi JsmnStrm: take my spot, Kathi.. I've already been answered. DuncHayn: ok DuncHayn: Hey, folks, it's been swell. Thanks a lot. SteeIBtrfl: thanks Duncan SteeIBtrfl: nice chat HOST WPLC Lyric: Can you stay for a couple of more questions Dirk JsmnStrm: yeah, thanks for coming! DuncHayn: Fine. HOST WPLC Lyric: just to finish those who've already asked OnlineHost: PHeeren has entered the room. HOST WPLC Lyric: GA Duff SteeIBtrfl: :::peeling rubber out-o-here::: nighters all*** OnlineHost: SteeIBtrfl has left the room. PHeeren: sorry I was bumped off DuncHayn: Keep the rubber on the road. JsmnStrm: night steel. ;) HOST WPLC Lyric: okay, if Duff isn't ready, Kathi PHeeren: my apologies HOST WPLC Lyric: ga Kathi Smith 116: At what point did you decide to leave your crit group and why? DuncHayn: After a while, everyone DuncHayn: gets to know what the other one will say. Nsummers882: good night, thank you. really enjoyed and have 4 pages of notes from tonight. HOST WPLC Dee R: welcome back, Tom DuncHayn: So you are "calibrated" for that type of person. DuncHayn: Then you need to find new critiquers. Kathi Smith 116: follow-up? HOST WPLC Lyric: GA Jas JsmnStrm: skip me.. HOST WPLC Lyric: GA sunnan DuncHayn: Sunnan? Sunan21: What do you do when you have a block DuncHayn: block? DuncHayn: Oh, writer's block! JsmnStrm: writers block stinks. JsmnStrm: :) DuncHayn: Never do. Sunan21: When you cant seem to express what you want DuncHayn: That';s what I was Sunan21: lucky you DuncHayn: talking about. If you lack inspiration DuncHayn: you go back to outlining. Sunan21: yes DuncHayn: And when you outline DuncHayn: you get inspired. DuncHayn: Consider it "directions to yourself." HOST WPLC Lyric: GA Gabby G1ft0fgabn0t: Was it hard to get your first novel published? How long did it actually take? DuncHayn: I called it a novel DuncHayn: in 1994. It was DuncHayn: published in 1998. G1ft0fgabn0t: wow DuncHayn: It was revised many times between 94 and 98. DuncHayn: That was where I LEARNED DuncHayn: writing. DuncHayn: (over) HOST WPLC Lyric: Thanks for staying for the last questions Dirk HOST WPLC Lyric: we really appreciated your talk tonight! HOST WPLC Dee R: I've heard that it's best to put your first finished novel behind you and concentrate on the second one. Sunan21: Thanks much! DuncHayn: La gusta es mia. HOST WPLC Sushi: Yes, thanks you :-) BALSKANDER: great chat thank you WriteWithHeart: You've given me a lot to think about Dirk, thank you HOST WPLC Dee R: Dirk...fascinating material...thank you JES No Time: Excellent chat! G1ft0fgabn0t: thanks very much HOST WPLC Dee R: we'd love to have you come again... HOST WPLC Lyric: ::::::::::Applause!!!!:::::::::::::::: CPeete: It's been a blast, but I must depart DuncHayn: Danke schoen. HOST WPLC Lyric: Would you come again Dirk? HOST WPLC Dee R: night, Connie Kathi Smith 116: Thank you, Dirk...very informative chat G1ft0fgabn0t: niters CP OnlineHost: BALSKANDER has left the room. DuncHayn: You're welcome. CPeete: great to have you with us tonight, Dirk CPeete: do come again DuncHayn: okay. G1ft0fgabn0t: Hooray!!! CPeete: you all have a good week! HOST WPLC Lyric: Great job Dirk WriteWithHeart: thanks again Lyric....Kathi, nice "seeing you" tonight... DuncHayn: Lyric, I couldn't get HOST WPLC Lyric: again thanks and stop by anytime! DuncHayn: the off-line screen to show. OnlineHost: Nsummers882 has left the room. OnlineHost: BaxterBK22 has entered the room. Kathi Smith 116: nice to see you too, cindy...come back soon DuncHayn: And thank you. HOST WPLC Sushi: That is the IM OnlineHost: CPeete has left the room. HOST WPLC Lyric: it might have been hidden behind the main screen OnlineHost: WriteWithHeart has left the room. HOST WPLC Lyric: move your chat screen by dragging it and see HOST WPLC Sushi: you have to double click their name in the "People Here" window PHeeren: dee, I have a ?, dee' TheDuffer: Thank you Guest, for your insight..... Good stuff..... DuncHayn: Sorry lyric, too dangerous to minimize it. HOST WPLC Dee R: sure...want me to IM you? HOST WPLC Lyric: thanks everyone for coming DuncHayn: Thanks, Duffer. JsmnStrm: LOL.. PHeeren: yes HOST WPLC Lyric: Remember everyone Tom, Pheeren is up next week HOST WPLC Lyric: so get your crits in! Kathi Smith 116: or click on the windows thing on the first line of the screen, shows all the open windows JsmnStrm: Well, Dirk, we can chat HTML some other time. lol JsmnStrm: :) HOST WPLC Dee R: tom, just IM'd you... DuncHayn: Great. Thanks again. I'm gone. JsmnStrm: night. HOST WPLC Dee R: night, Dirk... HOST WPLC Dee R: thanks again OnlineHost: PHeeren has left the room. OnlineHost: TheDuffer has left the room. HOST WPLC Sushi: Tom, then an educational session with Roy HOST WPLC Lyric: Bye! OnlineHost: BaxterBK22 has left the room. JsmnStrm: Okay, folks, I'm outta here... must go play a bit before bedtime... lolol HOST WPLC Sushi: Then Jes OnlineHost: DuncHayn has left the room. G1ft0fgabn0t: Me too y'all. Niters JsmnStrm: nighters!!!
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